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On 11-Dec-2007, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Dec 9, 5:07 pm, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAM...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "Magnus, Robot Fighter" <M...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > I do wonder if Gaiman has a story in mind. Supposedly he knows what
> >> > Dream was doing right before he was captured. Maybe that was
> >> > published and I never read it.
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> >> Doubtful. I think Gaiman is the type of writer who has completely
> >> fleshed out his characters before he ever sits down to write stories
> >> about them.
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> > If I recall rightly, he said that he knew what Dream's "war" in
> > another galaxy was all about...but that it was a story that he'd
> > *never* tell. >_>
> >
> > Personally, I always thought that the person responsible for the death
> > ofthe first Despair is being tormented simply by having to BE the next
> > Despair! ^^
:-) Intriguing idea. The person responsible for the death of the
first Despair is referred to as "he", and Despair is definitely
female, so that would be an interesting transformation.
Also, for what it's worth, the current Despair seems to have great
respect for her predecessor. She refers to her as a great lady, or
something similar, somewhere that I can't find right now. :-(
> > Really, tho, I'm more interested in learning why Delight became
> > Delirium...something about a wedding...?
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> No idea. The only wedding I can think of was when Orpheus got married.
> Delight had already been transformed into Delirium at that point.
> According to Wikipedia, Destiny says even he doesn't know why the change
> occurred.
From "Brief Lives":
Delirium: "Do you know why I stopped being Delight, my brother?"
Destiny doesn't answer.
Delirium: "I do. There are things not in your book. There are paths
outside this garden. You would do well to remember that."
> For some reason I have it in my head that the change had to
> do with changes in the universe rather than a specific event in her
> life.
I have the same impression. There's a passage somewhere about the
leaves beginning to fall in her Realm, but once again I can't seem
to lay my hands on it at the moment. :-( It's definitely time to
re-read the whole series again.
There's also this tantalizing exchange from "Brief Lives":
Destruction: "I trust that when your next change comes, it proves
easy on you."
Delirium: "Change?"
> Her change was different than those of Despair and Dream, since
> those two both died and were fundamentally the same being (still
> representing the same things) when they were reborn. I think "delight"
> is probably a more naive sense of awe and wonder than experience
> necessarily took away. She was engaged, though, so maybe that did play
> a part in it.
Ack. I'd forgotten she was engaged. Where is that mentioned?
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Jim Heckman
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